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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Oct 7 @ 2:48 PM ET
Carol Schram: Elias Pettersson has three-point night as Vancouver Canucks fall to Flames Elias Pettersson continues to be the star of the show, scoring two goals and adding an assist in his NHL road debut as the Vancouver Canucks fell 7-4 to the Calgary Flames on Saturday night.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:51 PM ET
Happy Thanksgiving Carol!!!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
Ok. Preseason means jack to me, in both predicting a dumpster fire or planning a parade. I think most people judging the Canucks during the preseason were judging the roster, particularly the return of the same god awful goaltending & defense.
- Marwood



No argument at all about the goalies and I don't think Demko is the answer either. I would be looking into free agency.

The D I am pretty sure you are right but I will wait 20 games to give my yes they are terrible approval. I have seen some things I like on D but it is a long shot

Happy Thanksgiving Carol and Crew
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

If OJ keeps up his steady play... he may be up here sooner rather than later
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

If OJ keeps up his steady play... he may be up here sooner rather than later

- boonerbuck



I hope they stick to the plan and try to get value for some trades at TDL.

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Oct 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
Mace-Ewen has looked great so far in Utica - IMO give him the full year and he'll be ready to step in for 4th line duties next year - they'll have to move someone out (Schaller?)

Lind looked pretty good in the first game - I'm surprised they scratched him actually.

Kinda bummed Gadjovich hasn't drawn in yet in favour of guys like Woods and Darcy who i doubt will ever play an NHL game but maybe he's injured?

Juolevi has looked really good with the puck - i like that he's on the PP immediately and he's taking the reigns and showing why we drafted him - i think 20+ games and he's be feeling close to ready. Got tickets for the 2 upcoming games in Toronto so looking forward to seeing everyone in person.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 3:15 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Both teams 1-1 to start the season, .500 hockey.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 7 @ 3:33 PM ET
I'm not surprised Gad/palmu and whoever haven't drawn in yet. Not good enough. Gadvojic has got to get quicker, I don't see a NHL career there right now. Lind in and out is to be expected, you can't just put kids in and expect to win (as Johnson says in Carol's article)
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 3:40 PM ET
I'm not surprised Gad/palmu and whoever haven't drawn in yet. Not good enough. Gadvojic has got to get quicker, I don't see a NHL career there right now. Lind in and out is to be expected, you can't just put kids in and expect to win (as Johnson says in Carol's article)
- neem55

Palmu played last night.
20. Dylan Blujus (D) Utica Comets - - - - - -

21. Lukas Jasek (RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
22. Guillaume Brisebois (D) Utica Comets - - - - - -
23. Jonah Gadjovich (LW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
24. Michael Carcone (LW/RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
25. Wacey Hamilton (C) Utica Comets - - - - - -
26. Vincent Arseneau (LW/RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
27. Jagger Dirk (D)


Jasek and Brisebois are injuried I believe. A bit surprised Carcone hasn't played.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 7 @ 3:50 PM ET
Palmu played last night.
20. Dylan Blujus (D) Utica Comets - - - - - -

21. Lukas Jasek (RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
22. Guillaume Brisebois (D) Utica Comets - - - - - -
23. Jonah Gadjovich (LW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
24. Michael Carcone (LW/RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
25. Wacey Hamilton (C) Utica Comets - - - - - -
26. Vincent Arseneau (LW/RW) Utica Comets - - - - - -
27. Jagger Dirk (D)


Jasek and Brisebois are injuried I believe. A bit surprised Carcone hasn't played.

- manvanfan


I like how Cull has been setting up his lines so far. Having at least one actual prospect on each line, being sheltered by tweeners and AHL vets is a pretty nice way to develop these young forwards.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 3:54 PM ET
No argument at all about the goalies and I don't think Demko is the answer either. I would be looking into free agency.

The D I am pretty sure you are right but I will wait 20 games to give my yes they are terrible approval. I have seen some things I like on D but it is a long shot

Happy Thanksgiving Carol and Crew

- VANTEL

Demko needs til 2020 to get his game ready IMO. 2019 maybe a back up but depends on who replaces Nilsson. The D still needs more elite talent. Idk maybe next draft but lots a good F’s available.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm not surprised Gad/palmu and whoever haven't drawn in yet. Not good enough. Gadvojic has got to get quicker, I don't see a NHL career there right now. Lind in and out is to be expected, you can't just put kids in and expect to win (as Johnson says in Carol's article)
- neem55

Nothing to do with not good enough. As Carol said you don’t throw a roster of kids to the wolves. Onto all these draft picks some ppl wanted & i said where will they all play if even signed? Therefore it’s high draft picks not quanity of fodder
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 3:58 PM ET
I like how Cull has been setting up his lines so far. Having at least one actual prospect on each line, being sheltered by tweeners and AHL vets is a pretty nice way to develop these young forwards.
- Reubenkincade

Agree
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 7 @ 4:03 PM ET
Nothing to do with not good enough. As Carol said you don’t throw a roster of kids to the wolves. Onto all these draft picks some ppl wanted & i said where will they all play if even signed? Therefore it’s high draft picks not quanity of fodder
- Nighthawk

If they were good enough, they'd be in the lineup. It has everything to do with it. Not to say they won't draw in, just that they are going to have to work for it (as they should)
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 7 @ 4:04 PM ET
I like how Cull has been setting up his lines so far. Having at least one actual prospect on each line, being sheltered by tweeners and AHL vets is a pretty nice way to develop these young forwards.
- Reubenkincade

Yup. This is how it should be, weave them in slow and let them work their way up the lineup based on performance. Same as at the NHL level.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 4:13 PM ET
I like how Cull has been setting up his lines so far. Having at least one actual prospect on each line, being sheltered by tweeners and AHL vets is a pretty nice way to develop these young forwards.
- Reubenkincade

I haven't paid attention to who is actually playing with who in Utica. Saw highlights of the goals last night on Utica twitter. Dahlen making some nice plays. Playmaker instead of goal scorer.

Van was ranked #3 by sporting news and #2 by Pronman for farm systems. If you eliminated EP from being the list and all the other top prospects that have graduated to the NHL now. Mittelstadt/Dahlen/Svechnikov/Donato for other examples. Where would Van sit then.
http://www.sportingnews.c...bho4124nwrog1xk1q95ibejgj
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 7 @ 4:20 PM ET
Fun.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 4:28 PM ET
If they were good enough, they'd be in the lineup. It has everything to do with it. Not to say they won't draw in, just that they are going to have to work for it (as they should)
- neem55

Of course. Still it’s a finite roster. Kids need to play but in the Pros a draftee isn’t guaranteed anything when not 1st rounders. Competition for spots can get tight.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
I haven't paid attention to who is actually playing with who in Utica. Saw highlights of the goals last night on Utica twitter. Dahlen making some nice plays. Playmaker instead of goal scorer.

Van was ranked #3 by sporting news and #2 by Pronman for farm systems. If you eliminated EP from being the list and all the other top prospects that have graduated to the NHL now. Mittelstadt/Dahlen/Svechnikov/Donato for other examples. Where would Van sit then.
http://www.sportingnews.c...bho4124nwrog1xk1q95ibejgj

- manvanfan


Still top 10 by my guesstimation.
I’d rank the Flyers #1 on depth alone.
Sabres after Dahlin don’t impress me.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 7 @ 4:34 PM ET
I haven't paid attention to who is actually playing with who in Utica. Saw highlights of the goals last night on Utica twitter. Dahlen making some nice plays. Playmaker instead of goal scorer.

Van was ranked #3 by sporting news and #2 by Pronman for farm systems. If you eliminated EP from being the list and all the other top prospects that have graduated to the NHL now. Mittelstadt/Dahlen/Svechnikov/Donato for other examples. Where would Van sit then.
http://www.sportingnews.c...bho4124nwrog1xk1q95ibejgj

- manvanfan


I would replace Jasek with MacEwen.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 4:35 PM ET
I would replace Jasek with MacEwen.
- Reubenkincade

Gadjovich is not even listed.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 7 @ 4:40 PM ET
Gadjovich is not even listed.
- Nighthawk


A lot of these sites, consider flashiness/goalscoring as a high priority, they love me some smaller players, as opposed to players like Gadj and MacEwen who are big men.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 7 @ 4:42 PM ET
Still top 10 by my guesstimation.
I’d rank the Flyers #1 on depth alone.
Sabres after Dahlin don’t impress me.

- Nighthawk

I think I would too actually. Still good depth and really no one graduated from Phillies system. I think I would put Van probably 5-8 somewhere in there.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 7 @ 4:42 PM ET
Still top 10 by my guesstimation.
I’d rank the Flyers #1 on depth alone.
Sabres after Dahlin don’t impress me.

- Nighthawk

Yeah philly has a nice pool of prospects, Farabee might be one of the more underrated guys from the last draft. I liked the isles draft too, Getting Wahlstrom and Dobson seems so crazy to me. Add that to some nice young prospects, they have some great pieces.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 7 @ 4:43 PM ET
A lot of these sites, consider flashiness/goalscoring as a high priority, they love me some smaller players, as opposed to players like Gadj and MacEwen who are big men.
- Reubenkincade

Yup it’s all subjective & always open for critiquing. A guideline for me mostly.
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